House Judiciary committee
January 21, 2025
Representative Carol Dalby [00:00:00] ...nice break since Thursday. I have just received word from the Chief justice that she will not be attending today, so we will not hear from her. With that, we do have a couple of bills that we're going to run. We have Representative Painter, House Bill 1006. Representative Painter, if you'll come to the end of the table. There is an amendment. We need to pass the amendment out.
So while the amendment is being passed out, I think one of the things with the magic words I'm supposed to say is the chair sees a quorum. So the chair sees a quorum. I forget those magic words every couple of years. Once you have an opportunity to take a look and read the amendment, I'm going to give you a moment or two to look at the amendment. Just look up at me so I know that everybody's had an opportunity to see it and then we'll come back to you, Representative Painter.
Alright, I believe everybody's had an opportunity to read the amendment. Representative Painter, you're recognized to present your amendment to House Bill 1006.
Representative Stetson Painter [00:02:10] Thank you, Madam Chair. Committee, it's a pleasure to be in front of you this morning as the first bill of the session in this committee. This amendment is simple. It's just adding the emergency clause to the bill. Talking to the prosecuting attorney, due to the fact of the caseload, everything else, he felt like we need to get this bill passed and get it signed pretty quick. I'll be glad to take any questions.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:02:31] Members, you've heard the explanation of the amendment. Are there any questions? Seeing no questions, what's the will of the committee? We have a motion to adopt the amendment. Any discussion on the motion? Seeing no discussion, all in favor of adoption of the amendment, please say aye. Any opposed say no. Ayes have it. The amendment has been adopted. You are now recognized to present House Bill 1006 as amended.
Representative Stetson Painter [00:02:57] Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you, committee. This bill, HB 1006, is taking the 14th Judicial District from a Tier B to a Tier A. So you might want to think what a Tier B Judicial District is. It's a part time Judicial District. We have three of those in the state. In previous sessions, this body has changed those. The 14th district is just requesting to go from a Tier B to a Tier A, going to full time. The 14th Judicial District covers Baxter, Marion, Boone and Newton counties.
The other two part time are the 9th and the 15th Judicial District. This has a fiscal impact. With the last year, there was a 6% match increase, salary increase. This would increase from constitutional officers agency funding by $40,796. So other than that, that's all this bill does. It's just taking a part time Judicial District to a full time. Be glad to take any questions.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:03:59] Members, are there any questions? Seeing no questions, we have no one who has signed up for or against the bill. Is there anyone in the audience? Mr. McMahon, You're good with it? The prosecuting attorneys are good with it. Anybody else? Seeing no further questions, you are recognized to close for your bill.
Representative Stetson Painter [00:04:20] I appreciate you, Madam Chair, and the committee for allowing me to present this bill, and I would appreciate a good vote.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:04:25] Members ,Representative Painter has closed for his bill. What is the will of the committee? As amended? We have several motions to do pass as amended. Is there any discussion on the motion? Seeing no discussion, all in favor of passing the bill as amended, please say aye. Any opposed. No one opposes. The bill is passed as amended. Congratulations.
Next, members, we recognized Representative Puryear for House Bill 1007. There is an amendment on that one that will be being passed out. So let's take a look at that and then we'll come back to it. Members, the amendment has been passed out. Representative Puryear, would you like to explain your amendment?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:06:14] The amendment simply adds co-sponsors.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:06:17] Members, You've heard an explanation of the Amendment. Any questions? Seeing no questions, what's the will of the committee? Motion to adopt. We have a motion to adopt on the floor. Is there any discussion of the motion? All in favor of the motion to adopt, please say aye. Any opposed say no. The motion has been adopted. You are now recognized to present your bill as amended.
Representative Chad Puryear [00:06:37] All right. Thank you, Madam Chair. Youth shooting sports have continued to grow. Thousands of our youth across the state participate in organizations such as 4H and the Arkansas Game & Fish Commission. This bill creates liability protections for individuals who choose to open up their property for use to shooting sports. The legislation uses similar language to our current equine competition law, so it's proven language. And also just basically the overall intent is to encourage more shooting opportunities for youth.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:07:10] Members, you've heard the explanation of the bill from the bill's sponsor. Are there any questions? Representative Collins, you are recognized for a question.
Representative Andrew Collins [00:07:19] Thank you, Madam Chair. So why do you think this is necessary? I mean, we've got current law that would protect a non negligent host. And we're saying with this bill that if they are negligent or even grossly negligent, then they are immune from any kind of liability. So is there a problem that we're finding where the current law is not adequate.
Representative Chad Puryear [00:07:44] No, no, there's not been an incident or not any challenge to the law. What we're trying to do is just simply give those individuals the peace of mind. They're kind of on the fence of opening up their ranges to students but worry about the litigation that comes. And as we all know, we live in a very-- a lot of folks are just kind of afraid of getting sued anymore.
Representative Andrew Collins [00:08:10] Follow up, please.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:08:11] You're recognized.
Representative Andrew Collins [00:08:12] Well, I understand that. And I guess the flipside of that might be the litigation serves a purpose. And one of the purposes is that the threat of litigation if you are negligent encourages people to not be negligent, and so they exercise reasonable care when they're hosting these events. And if we take this risk of litigation away, are we making it less likely that people will exercise reasonable care and undertake safe precautions, things we want them to do?
The second thing is, if somebody is injured, heaven forbid, at one of these things and someone was negligent or grossly negligent, this takes away their ability to get any recourse. So they suffer an injury, too bad basically, is what we're saying. So what about those two considerations, both how the host behaves and how there's no recourse for the person who's injured?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:09:08] Well, I feel like on how the host would behave, these are people that spend thousands of dollars. They get nothing in return for their literally donating their time, land and finances to get these kids out there. So they're going to do the best they can to have kids be in a safe environment. So I think that part of the bill, your issue is addressed.
And as far as the second part of it, I mean, you are right there, but that kind of goes with the first part. If they're going to-- these are good players, this isn't a for profit type situation. So we've got good players. They're going to have the best interest of the participants in mind. So I feel like those concerns can be addressed that way.
Representative Andrew Collins [00:09:46] Thank you.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:09:47] Representative Tosh, you're recognized for a question.
Representative Dwight Tosh [00:09:49] Thank you, Madam Chair. I think you answered my question. These facilities, there's no compensation to them. They're doing this because they just want to help these kids. Is that correct?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:09:59] Yes, sir.
Representative Dwight Tosh [00:10:01] And I know you probably don't have an exact number on this, but obviously there's a reason for this, to get these kids off the Internet and give them something else to do and to give them an activity other than, like I said, being on the Internet. But what do you think the impact would be to these people that provide these facilities and open this up to these young people. What do you think it would be if they knew they would possibly be facing litigation? And do you think that they would still be as willing to provide these facilities to them?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:10:37] No, no, sir. I mean, one good example is, when I was an Agri teacher in Jasper, we opened up a range and then I sold the property 12 years ago. So the new owners that aren't from there and know the kids are not as apt to open that up. But I feel like with something like this, it may give them that little piece of mine that would let that range open back up for the kids.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:11:01] Representative Hudson, you're recognized for a question.
Representative Ashley Hudson [00:11:08] Thank you, Madam Chair. Representative Puryear, you've talked a lot about this applying to not for profit events for youth. Where in the bill does it say that this only applies to nonprofits?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:11:27] Well, I may have went down a rabbit hole of talking about nonprofit on the intent of the bill. But I'm trying to think of an example of a for profit shooting range that this would have liability for that doesn't already have their own standing liability.
Representative Ashley Hudson [00:11:58] Well but so because this isn't limited, it now applies to for profit shooting ranges if they hold an event at their shooting range. It is not limited to youth. It is not limited to nonprofits. It doesn't say anything about whether or not these events are required to carry insurance. So that would mean, for example, if there is a youth shooting event and one kid turned and was pretending to shoot a gun at another kid, just thought it was an unloaded weapon and shot that kid and hurt them, that may be negligent on behalf of the person who put on this event. But those parents have no recourse.
Representative Chad Puryear [00:12:42] So are you saying in that situation, the event holder would be the ones that were negligent because of-- I'm trying to understand your question. So if another kid had an accident, how would that go back to being negligent on--
Representative Ashley Hudson [00:13:05] If there was an argument that there was a failure to supervise. Say there are two five year olds with guns.
Representative Chad Puryear [00:13:10] Okay.
Representative Ashley Hudson [00:13:11] But what I'm saying with that hypothetical is that there is nothing in here that limits this to nonprofit events. This is nothing that limits it to just some guy trying to do something nice for the kids. This applies as evenly to for profit gun ranges, for profit events. And it leaves participants with no recourse unless the issue is willful and wanton, which essentially would mean unless the purveyor of the event came out and decided to just start shooting at the participants. So is that the intent of this bill?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:13:45] Well, the overall intent of the bill is just to open up more opportunities for youth to have a place to shoot. And if this bill does do what you're saying in that event to some of these private ranges, then I would still consider that as a good part of this bill, even though we're probably going to disagree on that end of it.
But if it gives those private ranges that extra little bit of incentive to get some of these youth out there, then I would still say that would be the intent of the bill and that would be something we would want with these kids in the state of Arkansas. Probably not answering your-- I'm not a lawyer enough to answer your question. So I'm doing my best.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:14:25] Representative Gazaway, you're recognized for a question.
Representative Jimmy Gazaway [00:14:28] Thank you, Madam Chair. Representative Puryear, are you aware of any other states that do this?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:14:35] I am not, as far as the liability protection. I have not done the research on that. I just do know that the youth shooting sports have grown across the south and probably into the northeast as well. But I don't know. I haven't researched other states. I mean, it's a big thing here in Arkansas. So I'm just kind of focused on what's going on and what's good for Arkansas.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:14:58] Representative Richardson, you are recognized for a question.
Representative Scott Richardson [00:15:01] Thank you, Madam Chair. Representative, I appreciate you bringing this bill. Excuse my voice. I'm dealing with what everybody else is probably dealing with right now this time of year. So a couple of questions. You referenced equine and equine sports, and I've had an opportunity to participate in those sports in the past, and I know that I've gone to a number of arenas that are for profit businesses to participate in the sports.
And yet I still live under the liability associated with that sport being my responsibility. If my horse acts up and throws a fit and kicks another rider or a person who's not participating, just happens to be a spectator, then that liability lies with me. I guess my question is, is the language of your bill still in line with that?
It's still the liability of the individual who acted poorly and not necessarily just where the event is occurring that you're trying to protect, that the landowner or the event venue owner? Because inherently there can be some danger associated with sporting events.
Representative Chad Puryear [00:16:11] Yes. And Representative Hudson, that may have been how I should have answered your question. That's why we used the current equine competition law, because the language, in my mind, it's a very similar event, although different venue, so to speak. Whereas you have those chances of something can happen at a rodeo that are across the board. But back to your question. Yes. The intent is there and we are using just as much as we could to write the bill the same language for the equine sponsored law.
Representative Scott Richardson [00:16:48] Thank you for that.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:16:49] Members, let me remind you, don't punch your microphone to get our attention. If you'll just kind of give us a little thumbs up or a little sign, we'll catch you that way. But more microphones on, we're getting feedback. So just try to catch our attention. We'll watch for you. Representative Springer, you're recognized for a question.
Representative Joy Springer [00:17:11] Good morning. Thank you, Madam Chair. I want to follow up on Representative Hudson's points that she made. There is an emphasis that you made on youth opportunities. Where in your bill is that specifically outlined in your bill that this is an opportunity for youth to have more opportunities and training so that they could be able to?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:17:38] So you want me to show you where it says youth shooting sports in the bill? I think--
Representative Joy Springer [00:17:43] Pardon me. I'm sorry. That is going to provide more opportunities for them.
Representative Chad Puryear [00:17:49] So how is it going to provide more? So how it will provide more opportunities for youth shooting sports is we have a lot of land owners and property owners out there that usually would be more willing to open up their property for these kids to build a range or they build a range or if it's something as simple as trap shooting, just a good open hayfield with everything set up.
You know, some of this doesn't require a whole lot of infrastructure to build. Some of it does. But this bill would give that peace of mind to these property owners. I am very confident that we would see an increase in shooting range opportunities for our youth if we passed this bill. Now, what number is that would be? I don't know. It may be ten ranges. In Northwest Arkansas, it may be 100. But it'll at least be a few that will give another kid a chance to shoot in an area where they may not have those opportunities.
Representative Joy Springer [00:18:46] Follow up.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:18:47] You're recognized.
Representative Joy Springer [00:18:48] Thank you, Madam Chair. So do you have any kind of statistics that show that there are some people that want to have these opportunities provided? Where are you getting your statistics from?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:18:57] Well, I don't have statistics. My statistics is just me as a property owner that did do this for kids and opened up and built a range. You know, I did it and I'm not going to lie, there was a little bit of back of my head that there might be, something could happen. Folks could sue you. I mean, we live in a world where that happens every day, every minute, every second.
So I don't have statistics saying that this will open that up. But just as my personal experience and my neighbor has a shooting range and I've got some other folks that are looking into opening this up for folks. So that's the statistics I'm using are just knowing that if we do this, there will be at least three more ranges in my district than there probably would have been in the past. So I don't have any actual statistic other than that.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:19:44] Representative Clowney, you're recognized for a question. Representative Springer, turn your mic off, if you don't mind. Thank you.
Representative Nicole Clowney [00:19:47] Thank you, Madam Chair. Representative Puryear, before committee, I mentioned that I didn't have any issues with this bill and I apologize in advance. I hate to ambush without warning, but my colleagues have brought up some really good points. So I just want to follow up and maybe get some clarification. I see exactly what it is that you're trying to do, and I see why you're trying to do it. I agree with that. But I am concerned about some of the language.
So I guess I have two questions. The first is, is there a definition anywhere of shooting sports event? Because my concern is, does this, as Representative Hudson notes, this applies now to for profit shooting ranges. What is the threshold for when a for profit shooting range would be immune? And in other words, if there are two people there, there's nothing in here that requires this be sort of an organized shooting event. I don't see a definition. What keeps this from applying just broadly to anybody who shows up at a shooting range to shoot?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:20:45] Yeah, Yeah. I think that's probably a valid point. But again, we go back to the equine competition law and there's nothing in that language that says what's a rodeo. Is it a bull riding event? Is it a calf tying event? I think we, in this situation, we used a law that has worked in the past with relevant success. I don't hear a whole lot about folks getting sued in the rodeo sector on this stuff. So that's why we used the language we used.
I mean, granted, there's probably, I think any time we sit here, there's probably a better way to sort all that out. But I'm here. I used the one that worked in the past. I used the one that worked for years. I'm sitting here and we got the bill and I wish everybody loved it, but we got a few that don't. So we're doing the best we can. I think the intent is there and I think the language we're using is proven language for that sector, which can be transferred pretty simply over to this sector as well. I do believe.
Representative Nicole Clowney [00:21:48] Follow up. Thank you. I appreciate that. I think that we do need to recognize there are inherent differences between horses and guns. One is a weapon that is created to harm, right?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:21:59] I would probably say horses are way more dangerous than guns.
Representative Nicole Clowney [00:22:02] Well, I don't have the statistics in front of me to argue with you. But my second question has to do with the youth component of this. Would you be, and I guess just maybe clarify on your previous answer, we've got lots of time, right? This is the first day we're really hearing bills in committee. You made a couple of references in your answer. It's like maybe it's not as good as it could be.
It seems like there are lots and fixes that we could make to this that would ease a lot of our concerns. I guess my question is, would you be willing to tighten up the language and make it more clearly a response to exactly the problem you're trying to solve rather than granting broad immunity to any operator of a shooting range, basically, I think unlimited, unless that behavior is willful and wanton.
Representative Chad Puryear [00:22:58] Well, I'm not trying to be unreasonable with this, but we filed this on the first day of bill filing. I've heard nothing. No pushback from any organization. Game & Fish is good with this. These 4H guys are good with this. I feel like I would probably like to go ahead and try to pass this bill as it is in this committee and then take my chances on the floor just because of an early preview. We filed this early and I haven't heard any pushback other than-- actually you guys, I've spoke more now than I spoke all last session right here out of the gate.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:23:33] Representative, I can't remember if you've appeared before this committee. This committee is a questioning committee. Anybody who comes, we love to dig right down in there because we know that any of the bills that come out of this committee affect a lot of different things. And so that's why you're getting these questions. And it's not unusual for this committee to say, would you pull it down.
It doesn't mean they're necessarily against it, but there might be a little tightening because we know that sometimes there are challenges throughout the court system on what's coming through this committee. And so we're trying to get it right. And I think that's what everybody's-- so don't feel offended that we're asking a lot or anything like that. Representative Clowney, is that all the questions you had? I didn't mean to interrupt. Representative Pearce, you're recognized for a question.
Representative Shad Pearce [00:24:35] I don't know that this is the proper time, Madam Chair, but could we postpone action and table this? Is that a possibility?
Representative Carol Dalby [00:24:43] It is a possibility. We can table it. We can ask. There's a couple of things. We can take the actual action to table and then we'll give him time to work on it. We can bring it back or he can voluntarily, with the committee's approval, just pull it down and work on it. Either way. So if you want to make a motion to table, you can. You can do that.
Representative Shad Pearce [00:25:08] Is this the proper time?
Representative Carol Dalby [00:25:10] This would be the proper time.
Representative Shad Pearce [00:25:13] I make a motion to postpone action and table.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:25:17] So you're making a motion to table this bill at this particular time. Is that your motion? Members, you've heard them. There is a motion on the table. Representative Pearce, would you like to explain your motion?
Representative Shad Pearce [00:25:30] The motion is--
Representative Carol Dalby [00:25:32] Wait, wait, wait. It's non debatable. It's non debatable. Okay. It will take a majority of the quorum and we do have a quorum here. So it will take a majority of us and I apologize. I'm a little rusty on some of this stuff but I have a good fellow sitting next to me who's poking me saying, no, you don't do anything. So we do have a motion to table House Bill 1007. No discussion. All in favor of the motion to table, please say aye. Any opposed? The nos have it. So we're not going to table at this time. Representative Pearce, do you have a question?
Representative Shad Pearce [00:26:09] No, Madam Chair. I'm good. Thank you.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:26:09] Representative Jeremiah Moore, you're recognized for a question.
Representative Jeremiah Moore [00:26:18] Thank you, Madam Chair. I was just going to go back to the liability question at hand. Does Section one, number two, paragraph B that provides the shooting equipment and fails to make reasonable and prudent efforts to determine the ability of a participant to engage safely, etc. Does this not solve some of the gross negligence portion of your bill?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:26:50] I would think so. I would think so. But again, I'm not an attorney to interpret that.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:27:02] Representative Gazaway, you're recognized for a question.
Representative Jimmy Gazaway [00:27:07] Thank you, Madam Chair. And again, Representative Puryear, I appreciate what you're trying to do here. I do have to wonder, have there been any incidents in the state that you're aware of where there have been operators, such as what you're trying to address in this bill that had been successfully sued and problems like that?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:27:28] Not that I'm aware of. And when we filed this bill the first day the news folks caught me and that was the question they had. The filing of this bill is not a reaction to a negligent act that happened or anything like that. And so I don't have any statistics like that. I'm sure accidents have happened, just not that any of that's been noteworthy for this legislation.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:27:56] You're recognized for a follow up.
Representative Jimmy Gazaway [00:27:58] And so what you're asking us to do is to grant these operators immunity. And you specifically referenced youth activities, although that's not mentioned in the bill specifically. But don't you think we would want the safest events possible when we're having youth shooting guns? And if we remove liability and give them immunity, that doesn't kind of inspire confidence in the safety, does it?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:28:28] Well, I think it goes back to the folks that are doing this are doing this to get kids out there shooting. They're not going to set something up that's unsafe, if that makes any sense. There's not an intent there. I mean, they're going to do the best they can. They're doing it so the kids can have a place to shoot and enjoy that. So they're not going to be coerced or have any reason to have anything other than the best they can do with it. So. I guess that's not answering your question correctly. We're using a-- and I promise you guys, I'm feeling the vibe here and I've got a lot of empty chairs so I kind of know where I'm standing on this. But the idea of us using the current law is I feel like that venue would transfer over to this venue on kind of on the liability side of it because hosting the event and all that.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:29:43] Representative Gazaway, you're recognized for another follow up.
Representative Jimmy Gazaway [00:29:45] Thank you, Madam Chair. And this will be my last question. But I guess the ultimate question I have is, is how is granting immunity going to improve safety?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:29:57] Well, I mean, you've got me on that one. The intent of the bill is to do, what we're doing is to open up ranges. But I do agree with that. You know, I don't know how to answer your question, to be honest with you, sir.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:30:26] Representative Crawford, you're recognized for a question.
Representative Cindy Crawford [00:30:33] I just have a motion at the right time.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:30:36] Hang on. I think Representative Tosh has something. Representative Tosh, you're recognized.
Representative Dwight Tosh [00:30:42] Thank you, Madam Chair. Representative, you can tell there's a lot of concerns, especially when it comes to groups that are actually doing this for a profit. I think most of us on this committee, we understand and agree with you that if it's nonprofit organizations that are doing something to help the youth, we could engage or get more involved. But I think that's one of the biggest concerns.
I really believe that to be an easy fix in this bill for you, if you would. But we need that language to be correct. And I agree with everything that's been said. Passing a bill out of here that opens this up to any firing range where people are paying to be there and it's a profit type of situation, I don't think that needs to apply in this bill. So I think my suggestion would be if you would consider pulling it down, getting that part of the language corrected, then bringing it back to this committee. And I think you'll be okay with it.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:31:49] Representative Puryear, would you like to pull your bill down to work on that language?
Representative Chad Puryear [00:31:54] Yeah, I'm good with that.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:31:55] Okay. Members, Representative Puryear is requesting to pull this bill down. Without opposition, the committee will allow that. And I tell you what, just so people here understand how we operate in this. Once he gets his language like he wants-- you might visit with some of the attorneys. We're not all bad. Visit with us and visit with Captain Tosh, as I often refer to him.
And let's get this bill-- I think everybody agrees that shooting sports are important in Arkansas, youth shooting sports. My son was on the youth shooting sports team in high school. And so it's a sport that we're fond of in our household, but let's get it right. And so we appreciate you bringing it. It's a great opportunity for us to hear it and to hear the concerns. And if you will, let me know when you're ready to run it again. We'll bring it right back up.
Representative Chad Puryear [00:32:56] Okay. I'll speak to the attorneys and get back with you.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:32:58] Well, or anybody else on the committee. A lot of this committee's been here for a long time. We understand the different liabilities. But we appreciate you bringing it. Thank you for pulling it down so we can get it right.
Representative Chad Puryear [00:33:10] All right. Thank you, committee. Thank you, Madam Chair.
Representative Carol Dalby [00:33:12] Thank you. Members, I have heard from the chief justice this morning. She just texted and apologizes that she could not be here. Something came up in her schedule and she has said if there's another time on the agenda, she would like to come. And I have certainly texted her back, no problem, just let us know. So it may be Thursday, it may be on down the road. But if the chief justice can come, as we often have always had the chief justice to come to our committee at the very first of the session, we'll give her that opportunity to do that. So I wanted to make that announcement.
Members, I want to run through our agenda so that also people who come to this committee know where the committee is on different things, as to when we're going to hear things. I have been talking to several different people as to what they're ready to run. Representative Richardson has indicated to me he's ready to run House Bill 1071. That'll run on Thursday. House Bill 1071 for Thursday. Then Representative Gramlich, who's not a member of the committee, but I've talked to him. He will be ready to run House Bill 1067 on Thursday. House Bill 1067 on Thursday.
If any of you are keeping up with House Bill 1168, Representative Johnson has asked that that be placed on deferred. So House Bill 1168 to go into the deferred list. Representative Vaught is not quite ready to run hers yet. Representative Richardson has two bills, he has indicated to me, that are being amended. Those are House bills 1141 and House Bill 1057. Representative Tosh is working on amendments for House Bill 1049. And Representative McCullough and I have not visited on her bill, but it was just filed on yesterday, so we're not ready to hear that.
I think that brings us-- I have not heard from Representative McElroy. I will be talking to him and I'll be talking to Representative Achor. Those two may or may not hit for Thursday, but as is my practice, I will text you and let you know.
So is everybody clear as to where we are on our agenda? And I want the people out in the audience to know we don't start at the top in this committee and work our way down. We try to have them ready to go the Tuesday before Thursday or Thursday before Tuesday. So right now, Tuesday, we will have those two bills that I announced. If there is anything else, I will let you know. I know of nothing else.
We do have our picture set for this Thursday, so put your best bib and tucker on and show up about 10 minutes early, which may be the hardest thing that Representative Gazaway does all session is show up early. But we're banking on him. If you're not here-- if you haven't learned anything, we start on time. If you're not here, you will miss the picture and you want to be there with your smiling faces. So put that on your calendar. Picture will be Thursday. Committee picture Thursday. I know of no other announcements. We're good. So with that, thank you for your hard work this morning. We are adjourned.
